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From: cmosley@voicenet.com (Christopher Mosley)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Kermit via PPP under DOS?
Date: 30 Sep 1997 03:01:50 GMT
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Christopher Mosley (cmosley@voicenet.com) wrote:
: Vladimir Alexiev (vladimir@cs.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: : In article <60hrre$t7q$1@news3.voicenet.com> cmosley@voicenet.com (Christopher Mosley) writes:
: : > Yes, pktmux in combination with cslipper. I don't think dosppp uses
: : > compression?
: Basically I was giving _explicit_ instructions on how to to use mskermit as
: a telnet in windows concurrently with winsock applications. So you can connect
: to your very most favorite isp and use the best telnet. There is the notion
: around that this cannot be done or shouldn't be done.
: It's been a while since I did this but I believe the packet driver
: option in trumpet winsock is ethernet not slip - pktmux is also ethernet.
This is backwards, the important thing is that pktmux uses an ethernet
driver and presents an ethernet interface I believe and kermit needs a slip
interface if ethernet is going to be used . There *is*
a slip/ppp interface in winsock. Now if there is a way around this -
I don't know.
It is however simple to do this with c/slipper.
: Kermit needs a slip (6)interface with PPP therfore use c/slip. C/Slipper
: is the best I've found. Why it is not the driver supplied with kermit
: I don't know. The driver supplied/once supplied with kermit was the basis
: for c/slipper - I believe.
:
: : It doesn't have VJ header compression, yes. But I'm not sure if that's the
: : only kind of compression that PPP supports. The main benefit of PPP to SLIP is
: : that it's more robust, not more efficient.
: : In any case the choice of PPP or SLIP is already made for you by your ISP :-)
: : > (slirp can be used if you have a shell account and don't have cslip)
: : If you have a shell account, why would you want to use SLIP for kermit anyway?
: : > can be used to run mskermit as a telnet concurrently with winsock
: : > applications.
: : Once you have any kind of packet driver and/or emulation (no matter SLIP or
: : PPP), you can put two stacks (kermit's and winsock) on top of the driver,
: : using pktmux. With some provisos, of course.
: : > kermit and cslipper makes a great telnet for arachne .
: : Yes, if you use TCP/IP applications, then there is sense in putting a SLIP/PPP
: : emulator on top of a shell connection, and using Kermit over that TCP/IP link.
: : BTW, the emulator that's more commonly used than SLiRP is TIA. TIA has both
: : SLIP and PPP emulation.
: Slirp is completely free, has ppp/slip/cslip it is the uncommon choice of
: the parsimonious.
: : > Why not use the best instead of what is supplied.
: : Agreed. But one should also understand the tradeoffs between different
: : protocols and protocol driver implementations. Eg PPP is more robust; SLIP may
: : be more parsimonious; EtherPPP supports VJ compression but is bulkier than
: : DOSPPP.
: : > It is somewhat surprising to find that dosppp will not work out of the box
: : > for kermit telnet in arachne but dosppp works quite well with _other_ wattcp
: : > based programs.
: : PPPD (class 6 driver) works out of the box, EPPPD (class 1 driver) doesn't.